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| The Sindhi - Italian Connection! - (apart from the fact that our surnames end in "ani" ofc | Views: 3178 |
| Apr 28, 2007 4:41 pm | | The Sindhi - Italian Connection! - (apart from the fact that our surnames end in "ani" ofc | # |
Manish Nihal | | Fellow Global Sindhis, lend me your ears!
I have come across this very interesting topic of discussion and could not resist sharing it with you.
There seems to be a good amount of similarity between The Sindhi and Italian way of life, could there be a connection?
Apart from the most well known fact that our surnames end in "ani", even the Italian and Sindhi cuisine has a lot of Similarity. Did you know that the authentic Italian Pizza has two main flavors ¡Ocimum -(Tulsi) and pepper only? (Cheese Pizza is an American invention) Pepper is an integral part of the Sindhi cuisine and no Sindhi can survive without the three Ps! Pakoras, Papad and Peppermint!
Some even say the Italians and Sindhi¡¦s are two races you can differentiate by their most distinguishing character - straight noses (have not seen may Italians so cannot comment on that:)
The reason people say is the extensive trade in olden times between the ports of Karachi and Venice,
Last but not the least Sindh and Venice have a very interesting similarity, some of the best canal systems in the world.
What do you feel about this??
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| Apr 28, 2007 5:36 pm | | re: The Sindhi - Italian Connection! - (apart from the fact that our surnames end in "ani" | # |
Pushpa Moorjani | | Interesting Nihal!
To bring home the point, 'Aileen Wortley' in his essay ‘THE SINDHI HINDU POPULATION: FOREIGN INFLUENCES ON THEIR CULTURE’ says:
that it is important to be aware of the history of Sind much of which is a story of continual invasion. It is now known that Sind boasts a civilization at least as old as that of Ancient Egypt. Sindhi culture is not merely a few hundred years old but dates back to around 8,000 BC
To be able to understand this, it is important to be aware of the history of Sind much of which is a story of continual invasion.
Inevitably each and every one of these invading peoples have had an influence upon the economic, cultural and linguistic features of the Sindhi whether Muslem or Hindu.
Somehow the Sindhi Hindus have absorbed into the melting pot of their culture many features of the diverse races and religions which penetrated Sind. Somehow they not only managed to survive attacks but to a certain extent benefited by the assimilation.
Its disadvantages, according to 'Jethmal Gulrajani', is that the Sindhi Hindus never built up an individuality in their culture which results from a concentration of forces. There is no real clear-cut individuality in matters of religion or caste. Instead they are like blotting paper who have absorbed whatever comes their way and seems to be an expedient adaptation.
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| Apr 29, 2007 12:33 pm | | re: re: The Sindhi - Italian Connection! - (apart from the fact that our surnames end in "ani&q | # |
Rajan Bhavnani | | There must be some book about the History and Antecedents of Sindhis? Please let me know if someone has come across a good book.
As far as italians and we go, having spent some time in Italy, there are similarities which I noticed!
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| Apr 30, 2007 6:13 am | | re: re: re: The Sindhi - Italian Connection! - (apart from the fact that our surnames end in "a | # |
Karan Jethani | | Please do mention about the similiarities that you have observed, Rajan.
Thanks Manish, for broaching an interesting topic, and Pushpa for her inputs. I am always amazed to know about the evolution and trivia of our culture and tradition.
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| Apr 30, 2007 12:10 pm | | re: re: re: re: The Sindhi - Italian Connection! - (apart from the fact that our surnames end in &qu | # |
Rajan Bhavnani | | On similarities between Sindhis and Italians!
Once Bob Hope, the famous comic, in a lighter vein, had mentioned that Italians have this extra muscle. When they talk their hands move!
I don't think we have it. Guess the Italians evolved differently.
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| May 01, 2007 3:14 pm | | re: re: re: re: re: The Sindhi - Italian Connection! - (apart from the fact that our surnames end in | # |
Manish Nihal | | Hey Rajan, I disagree! you should see my hands when I talk!!
by the way i have an interesting e - book - 'The Sindh Story - 'Time to know our roots''. please lt me know if any one wants a copy.
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| May 01, 2007 8:52 pm | | The Sindhi - Italian Connection! - (apart from the fact that our surnames end in | # |
EmOtiOnAL FUeL | | Hi Manish,
Wud definately like to have a e-copy of the book'The Sindh Story - 'Time to know our roots'.
U can send me the URL or mail me directly on :manojkriplani at gmail.
Looking forward for the same,
Thanks & Cheers!Private Reply to EmOtiOnAL FUeL |
| May 02, 2007 8:08 am | | re: The Sindhi - Italian Connection! - (apart from the fact that our surnames end in | # |
Rajan Bhavnani | | Sure would like a copy. Please post or email me rajan at the rate of c4cit.com
Thanks Private Reply to Rajan Bhavnani |
| May 02, 2007 4:03 pm | | re: re: The Sindhi - Italian Connection! - (apart from the fact that our surnames end in | # |
Manish Nihal | | Hello Rajan n Manoj, I have emailed you a copy of the book, lemme know your review:).. anyone else who needs a copy just gimme a shout.. Private Reply to Manish Nihal |
| May 03, 2007 5:24 am | | re: re: re: The Sindhi - Italian Connection! - (apart from the fact that our surnames end in | # |
Rajan Bhavnani | | Thanks buddy.
Cheers Rajan Private Reply to Rajan Bhavnani |
| May 03, 2007 6:28 am | | re: re: re: re: The Sindhi - Italian Connection! - (apart from the fact that our surnames end in | # |
~ ever happy ~ ani. | | Hi! Manish,
It is really nice to know that you have an e-copy of the book "The Sindh Story - Time to know our roots".
Yes, I am interested to have the same. You can send me the URL or email me directly on - anigul at gmail dot com.
Thanks & looking forward to receive this book.
Regards,
anita butani Private Reply to ~ ever happy ~ ani. |
| May 03, 2007 6:37 am | | re: The Sindhi - Italian Connection! - (apart from the fact that our surnames end in "ani" | # |
Dinesh Punjabi | | Hi manish
mail it to me also.
Thanks,
Dinesh
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| May 03, 2007 6:40 am | | re: re: re: The Sindhi - Italian Connection! - (apart from the fact that our surnames end in | # |
Amar Kalra | | Hello Mr. Manish,
Please email me a copy of the book 'The Sindh Story - 'Time to know our roots''at amarlk@rediffmail.com.
Thanks
Amar Private Reply to Amar Kalra |
| May 03, 2007 11:52 am | | re: re: re: re: The Sindhi - Italian Connection! - (apart from the fact that our surnames end in | # |
Ram Bhatia | | Hi Manish,
Can I have copy of the book too pls.
my email rambhatia1 at yahoo dot com
...thanks a ton
Ram Private Reply to Ram Bhatia |
| May 03, 2007 3:29 pm | | re: re: re: re: re: The Sindhi - Italian Connection! - (apart from the fact that our surnames end in | # |
Manish Nihal | | Dear Anita, DP, Amar and Ram, I have sent you a copy of the book and also a beautiful map of Sindh which shows all the regions which we usually hear about like Sahiti, Sukkhur Larkana etc…
So the next time we hear that good ol question - tawan kitan ja ahoy? We might actually be able to relate to it better :). Please do let me know how did u find the book n the map.
Thanks/Regards
Manish Ashokkumar Nihal
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| May 04, 2007 3:17 am | | re: re: re: re: re: re: The Sindhi - Italian Connection! - (apart from the fact that our surnames en | # |
Rajan Bhavnani | | Dear Manish,
It would be crass not to thank you for the book and the map. Beautiful.
My paternal grandparents were from dhooee ghitti in Hyderabad (Bhavnanis) and my maternal grandparents were form Clifton in Karachi (Shivdasanis). A friend saw our house and said he almost fainted. It housed a joint family of twenty five couples and their kids. An aangan in the middle, a common kitchen and lots of fun for the kids.
BTW, have any of you visited the sindhi site called dalsubzi.com ?
best
Rajan
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| May 04, 2007 7:14 am | | re: re: re: re: re: re: re: The Sindhi - Italian Connection! - (apart from the fact that our surname | # |
~ ever happy ~ ani. | | Dear Manish, It is really amazing how you could lay your
hands on such wonderful treasures of Sind, the Map and the
Story. Absolutely lovely. Thanks again.
Regards,
anita.Private Reply to ~ ever happy ~ ani. |
| May 04, 2007 1:16 pm | | re: re: re: re: re: re: re: re: The Sindhi - Italian Connection! - (apart from the fact that our sur | # |
little prince | | me too me too some one please
sanjay dot lulla at gmail dot com :) Private Reply to little prince |
| May 05, 2007 2:33 am | | re: re: re: re: re: re: re: re: re: The Sindhi - Italian Connection! - (apart from the fact that our | # |
Manish Nihal | | Dear Pushpa, Karan and Sanjay I have sent you a copy of the book. Hope u guys like it.
Thanks Anita n Rajan. Nice to know you guys liked the book n the map.
Rajan http://www.dalsabzi.com/ is a beautiful site; their newsletter is pretty informative too. People do check it out.
Thanks/Regards
Manish Ashokkumar Nihal
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| May 07, 2007 11:50 am | | re: re: re: re: re: re: re: re: re: re: re: The Sindhi - Italian Connection! - (apart from the fact | # |
Manish Nihal | | No probs Rishi,
but I'll need your email Id for that:)Private Reply to Manish Nihal |
| May 09, 2007 4:54 pm | | re: re: re: re: re: re: re: re: re: re: re: The Sindhi - Italian Connection! - (apart from the fact | # |
Manish Nihal | | Hey Sneha,
sent you a copy, do let us know how you found it.
Thanks
Manish NihalPrivate Reply to Manish Nihal |
| May 14, 2007 10:33 am | | re: The Sindhi - Italian Connection! - (apart from the fact | # |
Sonu C | | Hi Manish, got the copy .. Delighted to see the sind map.. book is good .. keep up the good spirit Private Reply to Sonu C |
| May 14, 2007 3:10 pm | | re: re: The Sindhi - Italian Connection! - (apart from the fact | # |
Manish Nihal | | Thanks Sonu :) Private Reply to Manish Nihal |
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