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| | The !:Global Sindhis Network is not currently active and cannot accept new posts | | Sindhism & Sikhism | Views: 9541 | | Jan 08, 2008 9:24 am | | Sindhism & Sikhism | # |
ajags | | I have this question hassling me for a long time and hope someone here can sort it.
How come most Sindhi's follow Gurunanak and visit Gurudwara?
Where is the connection? Considering they do not even speak the same language.
I have asked a few people but had no convincing answers.
Thanks! Arun Private Reply to ajags | | Jan 08, 2008 10:57 am | | re: Sindhism & Sikhism | # | 
Naresh...Profile Updated ... | | Hi Arun,
Have you seen the words of Sindhi and Urdu language, they look similiar but still have different meanings when read. Same goes for Punjabi and Gurbani Language. Most of the Old Sindhi ppl know Gurbani Language and hence u will see them reading Guru Grahanth Sahib in Gurbani Language (my Mom & Dad knows Gurbani language). So probably you may find them going to Gurudwara as well.
Incidently, you will find that many Sindhi people either following Sai Jhulelal, Sai Vasan Shah, Sai Baba, Shankar Bhagwan, Maa Sherawali, Guru Nanak Sahib, Sri Ram, Shri Ganesh etc. So you cant force them to follow only one deity like different religions.
And moreover, God is only One. One who knows God, will agree to this point surely. Its all upto you, whom you want to follow. He (The God) has taken different forms (like mentioned above) at different times for saving Humanity and spreading Love on this earth.
I hope you have taken note of what i am trying to say.
Regards,
Naresh.
Love All & Hate None.Private Reply to Naresh...Profile Updated ... | | Jan 08, 2008 12:33 pm | | re: re: Sindhism & Sikhism | # | 
Pushpa Moorjani | | The Sindhis were greatly influenced by Guru Nanak's teachings as he did pass through Sindh and expound his beautifully simple philosophy to the Sindhis of that area. The Sindhis were so deeply influenced by the Master's teachings that it was not uncommon for the Sindhis to make their first son a Sikh. Even today the Sindhis worship Guru Nanak with the same fervor that they accord to, Shri Krishna, Shri Ram, Shivji or/ and Ma Durga, Laxmi and Saraswati. The Geeta and The Guru Granth Sahib both enjoy an exalted status in Sindhi homes.
Once when Guru Nanak was asked which religion, Hinduism, Sikhism or Islam was the true path to God, Guru Nanak replied that the true way to attain God was to worship Him who is eternal and contained in the whole Universe.
Guru Nanak teaching are not specifically made for Sikhs or for Sindhi…it is generally for every confused mind. It simply preaches that God is formless, omnipresent, compassionate, and can be reached through prayer, humility, service, meditation, and virtuous living.
He did not propagate ritual worship, discrimination against women and against those of lower socio-economic status.
Guru Nanak urged his followers to:
Naam Japo – Constantly meditate on God’s name
Kirat Karo –to earn ones livelihood through honest means
Wand Chakko- To share
Private Reply to Pushpa Moorjani | | Jan 08, 2008 12:48 pm | | re: re: re: Sindhism & Sikhism | # |
Naresh...Profile Updated ... | | Hi Arun,
Its Gurmukhi, not Gurbani....sorry for the mistake.
Regards,
Naresh.Private Reply to Naresh...Profile Updated ... | | Jan 10, 2008 9:29 pm | | re: re: re: re: Sindhism & Sikhism | # |
ajags | | Naresh & Pushpa.. Thank you for your efforts.
I guess I understand what both of you are trying to say but following Sikhish and being a Hindu - Sindhi is like following two religions/beliefs at the same time.
I understand when we say there is just one God but everyone follows a structure to connect to that one God. No one follows two structures and following Hinduism as Sindhi's and Sikhism is following two structures and that is the confusion.
A few other threads on this Network does make me think on what is the identity of Sindhi's and what ideology we follow?
Private Reply to ajags | | Jan 11, 2008 6:18 am | | re: re: re: re: re: Sindhism & Sikhism | # | 
Karan Jethani | | It all goes back to the good old pre-partition days of Unified India.. Guru Nanaks Place of Birth is Sheikhupura almost 30 miles away from Lahore in Punjab Province. Which is also now called Nankana Saheb. There is another place in Lahore called Panja Saheb, which means the imprint of a hand, which can be clearly seen on a Big boulder, on the edge of cliff, verge of falling down, it is believed that Guru Nanak stopped the boulder from falling down the cliff and saving a huge population at the foot hill. Such miracles made Sindhis follow Guru Nanak from the days when Khalsa Panth was not even born, though Sikhism is known as a religion now, its actually an ideology. Sikhism consists of Sikhs who were originally Hindus and for all you know a few muslims as well. Sindhis follow the ideology and practise that ideology. There is /was a practise in many of the Sindhi families I know that sindhi women would desire to bear healthy children(oops Sons) by resolving that the eldest son would be made to live as a Sikh ( will be given in the service of Gurus)
There is lot more that goes hand in hand as far as Sindhis and Sikhs are concerned but Arun, I Hope this atleast has given you some idea and has set your line of thought.
Karan:-)
Private Reply to Karan Jethani | | Jan 12, 2008 10:41 am | | re: re: re: re: re: re: Sindhism & Sikhism | # |
Pushpa Moorjani | | Arun,
There is only one religion in this world.. ‘A true religion of human kind’ ..to be good human Being and do our duty in the best way that we can…why must we confuse our self by giving it a name?
Sindhis (in general) will bow at every stone (that they think ) can lead to God, but actually speaking is there is a whole world of religion within us.. if we go deep within…..why do we waste so much time in weighing the religions?
We have had this discussion earlier in our thread on religion and philosophy at
http://www.ryze.com/posttopic.php?topicid=845562&confid=1674 and we have discussed it from various angles….
Excerpt:
There was a worldwide convention of demons, where Satan in his opening address said,
“We can't keep people from going to pray. We can't keep them from reading their holy books and knowing the truth. We can't even keep them from forming an intimate relationship with their GOD. Once they gain that connection with GOD, our power over them is broken. So let them go to their prayers; let them have their covered dish dinners, BUT steal their time, so they don't have time to develop a relationship with GOD."
"This is what I want you to do," said the devil: "Distract them from gaining hold of their GOD and maintaining that vital connection throughout their day!"
"How shall we do this?" his demons shouted.
"Keep them busy in the non-essentials of life and invent innumerable to occupy their minds," he answered. "Keep them busy, busy, busy! And when they meet for spiritual fellowship, involve them in gossip and small talk so that they leave with troubled consciences. Crowd their lives with so many good causes they have no time to seek power from GOD."
"Soon they will be working in their own strength, sacrificing their health and family for the good of the cause."
It will work!"
It was quite a plan!
So you see..
We waste so much time in choosing the external tracts (Hindu, Sikh, Muslim, Christian..what does it matter?)
Why do we forget the actual road leading to God is a smooth route within us……?
None of us have actually met Guru Nanak or Jesus Christ, nor any other Gods.....We have different living Masters who are willing to show us the way but they too are preaching the SAME religion of Human Being..all have the SAME message.....to lead a good and honest life, and go deep within....
Private Reply to Pushpa Moorjani | | Jan 12, 2008 2:56 pm | | re: re: re: re: re: re: re: Sindhism & Sikhism | # | 
Waqar Agha | | Arun,
I agree with pushpa that the "true religion is of humankind.." and I believe "all roads goes to God". As the message of all religions is the same but might be presented in their own unique way and as per conditions and matuarity level of the society at that time.
Religion is basically a way of life and it is very important if it doesnt harm anyone else. The misuse of religion happened due to some vested interests of some wicked men in every religion. Like our sindhi sufi's revolted against the religious descrimination as people become so fanatic that they forgot the basics of religion i-e humanity. Like our sindhi sufi sachal sarmast rightly said " Mazhaban Manhoon munjhaya.."(translation: Religious fanatism confused and divided people.)
And our great shah Latif said " Nimazoon Parhan ee pin chango Kum, Par oo ki biyo faham jo Pasjay Pireean khay.."
(Pray to God is also good but the real Godliness is something called humanity and live and let live..). I am always saying that sindh has a special message of peace that we have to scatter around the world. Sindhi society has been historically free of any religious descrimination because of these great sufis like shah lateef, Jhoolay lal, Sachal, Sami, Qalandar etc as they are equally respected in both sindhi hindus and muslims . I personally visited Udero Lal and Qalandar and saw no religion there. The only religion I saw there, was a love for humanity..
I believe instead of confusing we should be focused on our religion moderately and revolted against any hate for mankind if raised by any fanatic.And All religions came to teach mankind how to live decently. This is what our sindhi sufis did in past and this is one flalvour of sindhism...
Saath SalamatPrivate Reply to Waqar Agha | | Feb 25, 2008 4:58 pm | | re: Sindhism & Sikhism | # |
Naresh...Profile Updated ... | | Hi Arun,
Recently, i found certain articles on net and inferred the following points. May be, this might help you to get an answer to your query.
1.Sikhs were mostly descended from Hindus (consisiting both punjabis & sindhis). Guess some of the gurus too had their ancestors from hindus but there is no factual evidence to back this up.
2. And moreover Marriages are probably more common between Sikh-Hindu so two diferent ideologies with their doctrines were easily observed by the couple's children passing to the next generation
3. Sikh males share the name: "Singh" which means "lion." which is similarly if not called but are considered to be lions in sindhis and Women carry the name of "Kaur" which means "princess." which is similarly considered as Nyaani as we treat the girl child like a princess which is placed above pandits and brahmins.
Above points I found it interesting, so thought of sharing with you all.
Regards.Private Reply to Naresh...Profile Updated ... | | |
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