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| Are sindhis divided by religion? | Views: 3297 |
| Jan 01, 2008 11:59 pm | | Are sindhis divided by religion? | # |
Waqar Agha | | Hello guys,
I have a confusion that I would like share with you. Hope u would like to comment on it openly.
Just a short introduction that I am from sindh and presently got canadian citizenship and living in Toronto .I joined global sindhis group in june 2006 as I intended to know about what my dear sindhi fellows, who are living in India think about sindhi's as a whole.
But I am sorry to say I found a clear division about sindhi's living in Sindh and in India. I didnt find any uniformity.My queries are related to that.
-Are we just sindhis with common interest or Indian sindhis and Pakistani sindhis?
Are we the same who teaches the world how to live decently--- Ref Moen Jo Daro Civilization?
- Are we the same sindhis whose message is Peace. Live and let live regardless of any cast , creed and religious affiliation?
-What I saw since my childhood is just the deterioration of our language , culture and identity in the hands of Indian Migrants and fanatic muslim non sindhis. I heared that this happened because of the migration of our educated sindhi to India during partitian and some uneducated and bull shit landlords couldnt save sindhs identity.
My question is can we do something about it now? can we just identify ourselves as only sindhi and nothing else?
Please correct me if I am wrong but the aim of this group should be to collect all sindhis on one platform and burry all the hatered caused by any circumstances happened in past.
happy new year
Regards
WaqarPrivate Reply to Waqar Agha |
| Jan 02, 2008 5:13 am | | re: Are sindhis divided by religion? | # |
Vinod Manwani M | | Partly, You are right Sai Waqar.
Instead of blaming and fuming on past and people, let's think afresh.
The biggest problem (in my opinion) in India with Sindhi community is we are not speaking our own language.
I noticed, in tains, buses, airports, people from different walks of life speak in relevant languages. I assume we feel shame in it? I may be wrong but I can not be wrong with youths in Mumbai with whom I interacted in Sindhi, they just looked awed and some of them really passed some lewd remarks abt our language and sense of not absorbing the modern society's norms.
Let's not crib on them.
Introspect what we can do in promoting Sindhi.
I'm a painter, and believe in myself to contribute with the fullest support.
vinod manwani
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| Jan 02, 2008 6:24 am | | re: re: Are sindhis divided by religion? | # |
Saniya Kirpalani | | Can we erase the years of segregation of Sindh?
Can we eradicate what 60 odd years of partition and pain put out?
Can we build a generation of sindhis who can go beyond the brutality we inflicted on each other?
Can we find commonality simply based on 'geo location similarity' or 'language commonality'?
It’s a very optimistic view to hope for...
A Sindhi, who goes to Pakistan, realizes the marked difference between themselves and a Sindhi- Muslim. The disparity if visible in every sphere, beliefs / religion/ manner of speech/ food/ political beliefs/ education/ dress/ business dealings and even the most basic understandings of life and commitments.
Pakistani Sindhis who come across find a globo-local sindhi. Someone who has no 'home' is a refugee of the world, speaks a smattering of languages, has adopted the culture which they sought refugee at.
This person is more a-secular in their beliefs, sindhism means little to them, they grew up in the school hard knocks. These sindhis have turned into cultural chameleons for their 9-5 routines. Sabhyata is less about religion and more about spirituality, they have had to evolve to suit their situation.
So why does it have to be about a location or language that they left 60 years ago? I think we need to go beyond that. Who are today's sindhi icons? Is there any shared ideology we should celebrate? Is there a possibility of a culture that can string across the differences and disparties?
As Mr Manwani so rightly said… lets move out from past and memories and find a way to amalgamate this generation ...
Simply said.. Does the past live in tomorrow's waking?
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| Jan 02, 2008 7:19 am | | re: re: re: Are sindhis divided by religion? | # |
Pushpa Moorjani | | Our forefathers were driven out of their comfort zone and left to fend for themselves.
What do we know about what they left behind? And will the youth of tomorrow care? Our parents left penniless, leaving behind their wealth, their emotions and their language. They carried their culture and their tradition with them, but we must not forget that they went to a strange land, and adapted to it. What can you do with Sindhi language in a foreign land? Can you do business? Can you survive without learning to speak in their common language?
I have never been to Pakistan to view the life styles of the land and we have little knowledge about the traditions and culture followed back there….we have no communications with the Sindhis living beyond that border, so in what way can we identify with it? We have heard stories, lots of them from our parents who lived there….they would speak about their happy memories in those narrow lanes…about the food they enjoyed, about the traditions that they followed but are they still there? We have no idea. The media paints a different picture.
We teach children to speak Sindhi at home (and it sound cute when a three year old speaks that language) but to live in a society of various culture, we learn different language, and we need to, but adhering to the language is difficult. We don’t have schools and colleges to promote the language, nah, not in a foreign land.
Your question is can we do something about it now?
What we can do now is just to be a good human being and waste no time in making a fuss over what we have already lost. We don’t want people branding Sindhi and saying nasty things. We don’t like people says that “Sindhis are fighting crabs” or “Sindhis are like that only” or “You are Sindhi if you…..” we want to be remembered as a good human being, each one of us are unique in our own way…not somebody to be ridicule at. We need to move on. If we can revive the language, then we can do so…but please be practical, it is better not to expect much, because the youth of today have already adapted to the foreign land and they need to speak in the language which is for their progress.
We are Sindhis who are successful, who concentrate more on business or jobs and are peace loving people. We mind our own business and have no land to fight for. We still have culture and traditions which we do follow and it is on that string we can all hang on……
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| Jan 02, 2008 8:15 am | | Are sindhis divided by religion? | # |
Rajiv Lulla | | all of you are right, partially....
practice our language and not be ashamed of it...
participate in our Sindhi functions without feeling self-conscious or lost...
be proud to be recognised as a Sindhi in public...
do all this and then maybe, the coming generation will be proud to be a Sindhi....something which a lot of this present generation wants to run away from....
me, I am proud to be a Sindhi...
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| Jan 02, 2008 9:05 am | | re: Are sindhis divided by religion? | # |
Saniya Kirpalani | | Dear Pushpa, As usual nicely worded.
Mr. Rajiv, the question is not 'Are you proud to be a Sindhi' but Waqar's query is "My question is can we do something about it now? Can we just identify ourselves as only sindhi and nothing else?"
I think we were in keeping with that thread. Most of us second and third generation sindhis who cannot identify ourselves only as 'sindhis'. We have amalgamated ourselves in a fabric of society called India. Others in a country called Pakistan and there is a marked country centric identity prior to everything else.
As someone who frequently crosses the border, i notice there is great warmth and love on a people to people level...but the divide of 60 years is marked. If its merely talking about nurturing a commonality based on language and a semblance of culture then its plausible a goal.
But as you wisely put it, If you want your child to be proud sindhi, then its got to be more. Don’t you think we have to give them inspiration and icons to look up to and identify first? Then it wont matter if its sindhi Muslim or sindhi Hindu.
Waqar goes on to ask
"Please correct me if I am wrong but the aim of this group should be to collect all sindhis on one platform and burry all the hatred caused by any circumstances happened in past."
I am not sure if that’s the aim of the Global Sindhi network. Do we have a socio-political agenda? Can we use this platform to mitigate the pain of the past... I don’t know. But, yes, we can ...only if there are stories of warmth, of trust, of faith that will change the dark stories we have heard before... it’s got to be about humanity!
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| Jan 03, 2008 1:29 am | | re: Are sindhis divided by religion? | # |
Waqar Agha | | My sindhi friends,
First of all thanks for taking time to post your precious views on this important or unimportant topic (I dont know).
We Pakistani sindhis are equally sad in this unforgetable incident happened with our sindhis during partition which is surely irrepairable. But I would disagree with pushpa that: "What we can do now is just to be a good human being and waste no time in making a fuss over what we have already lost..."
Because this century is the age of reunification and I am not talking about anything political here. As this all happened due to stupid polititians in the past.They forgot "Nations are not made on the basis of religion but its a hundreds of years process". And a nation comes before any religion.I am talking about people to people contact by the use of IT, for example this group.
Let me tell you some realities from our side. firstly We dont consider our indian sindhis as landless people because they have a land that is called "sindh" and this is a historical truth.The real dilema with us was our 80% educated sindhi middle class migrated to India and the decision makers remained the uneducated landlords so they only saw their benifit and nothing else.When Bhutto came to power in 70s he promoted sindhis in jobs and education. so when sindhi middle class started developing they knew their history , culture and realities about what happened during the partition. If you study our literature then you will feel that we are feling the same pain in our hearts that is in your heart.
Secondly one thing I can proudly say that sindhis in Pakistan didnt fight in the name of religion as we dont consider our hindu sindhis as aliens. Both of us respect eachother in such a unique way that we participate each of our ceremonies as the way it is celebrated by Hindus or muslims. Usually when we met we inhesitantly say "Namastay or Aslam-o-Alaekum". This is a fact that I am telling you today. How can we be devided as Sindhi muslims and hindus. We are a nation budy!!!!!
Thirdly I am not saying "Why are u learning other languages?" or I am not propagating hate against other nationalities. Rather sindhs message is always Peace.I am just stressing the need of sindhi unity only and not against anyone.
Here in canada when I saw Indian Punjabis and Pakistani Punjabis are creating joint organizations just in the name of Punjabi nation. Why cant we be like them.
My suggestion is first we should debate openly on the blocking isues between us. We are a second and third generations after partition and it is our prime responsibility to do something for sindh...
Like today as canadian sindhis we succesfully manage to put sindhi and english translated sindhi books in 5 liabraries of Toronto and adminton...
Finaly just to share this video sung by khushi lalwani with all of u just to touch our emotions....
http://www.sindhivideos.com/raani.html
Jag Sindhi Jaag. Nahain Wail-a- sumhan ji nahain..
Lets make new sindh...full of love
Waqar
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| Jan 03, 2008 6:39 am | | re: re: Are sindhis divided by religion? | # |
Pushpa Moorjani | | Thank you so much Waqar for getting connected.. This is my first contact in my life with a Sindhi across the border…..and I am highly touch by it….
The videos are fantastic…I have not seen any good Sindhi video or Sindhi play for a long time…do the Sindhis in Pakistan still dress up like that (in Pakisthan) with so much jewelry and colorful dresses?
Thanks for sharing
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| Jan 03, 2008 5:22 pm | | re: re: re: Are sindhis divided by religion? | # |
Saniya Kirpalani | | Dear Waqar
I have been across to Pakistan six times in the last year alone. And that too to Sindh. I guess I can sufficiently say, I know how the sindhis are treated and how non -hindu sindhis treat hindu sindhis. Like you rightly said, there is caution, but there is no divide. The warmth runs deep.
Deepak Perwani and Shoba are some of the non Muslim Sindhi I call my friends. Their stories of how well they have been treated despite the partition are heartwarming and have become very much a part of my understandings of Sindh. But even they feel the difference when they interact with sindhis across borders.
Also when I went into the interiors, I have seen the divide and difference. They, like you rightly pointed out have evolved at a different pace than educated and literate sindhi across the world and so if its got to be a sindhi amalgamation we cannot leave out anyone- not even the uneducated and the landlords.
Once again, you rightly pointed out....its about humanity and good deeds. The only thing that binds any human being, more than geo location, is humanity. These are the stories we need to create. In my own way, am working towards seeing the sub continent evolve sans borders. My work has been documented and criticized both in equal proportions in the Pakistani press.
But very recently someone called me "Pakistan's Indian daughter" that to me meant the world. It was not just my work, but the work of my Pakistani friends and our consistent togetherness that made this possible. So your dream of seeing sindhism transcend borders is something very plausible. Infact, I know a lot of ladies who are actively working at cross border togetherness.
But while I document this evolving legacy, the realization struck. We have to make our own history and heros. Today's history is not something written in text books, its concurrent and its going to take today's icons that will erase the memories of Jinnah and Jawaharlal.Keep your good work going. Best of luck... let me know if there is anything I can do.
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| Jan 04, 2008 4:16 am | | re: re: Are sindhis divided by religion? | # |
Waqar Agha | | I personally appreciate for such a nice participation on this touchy subject from u guys especially pushpa , saniya,vinod and Rajiv.
Pushpa! I have some other very good sindhi material to refer to you all that is available on internet. My next topic will be on it.Hope for all of your participation in this noble cause. Infact we are a bunch of sindhi friends here in canada(both pakistani and indian sindhis) working on a website where we put all famous sindhi drammas,E-books and music videos which I believe is very usefull for sindhis living abroad like us.In this way we will be in touch with our culture and traditions easily. Pls pray for its accomplishment as you know the society where we live in is totally mechanical and time is considered as money. About your querry regarding "way of the dresses that sindhi women wearing jewellery". Yes. the clothing of our mass sindhi population is the same as you pointed out.
Saniya! thanks for ur support and I am very impressed about your project that u mentioned in ur mail. I wish subcontinent will soon be borderless. In this way like others, Indian and Pakistani sindhis can atleast freely meet eachother. In addition to that I think a knowledgeble people like u can build understanding in India and in indian sindhis living abroad to forget their old wounds and try to participate in this sindhi reunification process. As our intentions are crystal clear and they are not against any other community,nation or even against humanity.
Moreover I admit that I am not a writer or so knowledgeble person like u guys. I am just a telecom engineer so I only knows how to work with machines so pls correct me if i couldnt present myself very well & forgive me if I hurt the feelings of anyone... as my intentions are always positive.
Finally pls accept this sindhi song by the great shaikh ayaz & sung y GiGi Zarine Baloch for u.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9je2rpCHKTA
Wathee Har har janam warbo Mitha Mehran main milbo...
(we will born again and again to meet in sindh o my beloved)
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| Jan 04, 2008 5:11 am | | re: re: re: Are sindhis divided by religion? | # |
Pushpa Moorjani | | Thank you Waqar…I am starting to feel connected to the roots and will try my best to connect the young subscribers of my magazine ‘Beyond Sindh’ in the best way that I can.
You can count on me....
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| Jan 04, 2008 4:53 pm | | re: re: re: re: Are sindhis divided by religion? | # |
Waqar Agha | |
Hi Pushpa,
Thanks for your support and I like ur spirit.You have written about ur magazine "beyond sindh". I was wondering if I can subscribe it here for canada and also refer the same to my sangat(friends) in US,UK and in Sindh etc?
Thanks for letting me know about other sindhi magazines published by our indian sindhis so that we can also subscribe them. This will surely help people to know eachothers point of view and help come closer to each other. Moreover I heared there are 250,000 sindhi's living in Canada altogether and we are trying to trace them and if possible, unite them under one organization in order to get a firm people to people contact. Atleast there is no border here to stop them.
Saath Salamat...
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| Jan 04, 2008 5:26 pm | | re: re: re: re: re: Are sindhis divided by religion? | # |
Pushpa Moorjani | | You can subscribe to the magazine ‘Beyond Sindh’ by going to their link, the details can be found here
http://www.ryze.com/posttopic.php?topicid=897981&confid=1674
We do have subscribers in US and UK and all over the world..and have a good readership mostly yongsters.
There are many more magazine also in circulations such as Sindhian, Bharat Ratna...I am wondering what magazine do you have in your town depicting Sindhi Culture?
What I would be interested is to invite your friends to Global Sindhi network so that we can communicate with them sharing our views and we can get to know them more intimately thus narrowing this space……of mystery.
:)
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| Jan 04, 2008 6:05 pm | | re: re: re: re: re: re: Are sindhis divided by religion? | # |
Waqar Agha | |
My friends belong to different walks of life and they have different views to see sindhi unity issue. Moreover time is the major hurdle. Offcourse I am trying to pursuade them to join GSN and thats a very powerful way for sindhi amalgmation. Atleast to share their views and clear their misunderstandings. GSN must include sindhi's accross border too
Yeah. I will subscribe "beyond sindh" very soon and check other magazines too. Here in canada we dont have any such magazine that depicts sindhi culture and in back home we have very good sindhi magazines that might not be useful for indian sindhis because they cannot read sindhi. Right?
We can take the subscription of Jump TV(www.jumptv.com) they are broadcasting three very famous sindhi TV cahannels at a very low cost($10 per month.) This IP TV is a very usefull source for people like us to be connected with our homeland. The channels are : KTN (dramma,music etc), KTN news (News and talk shows) & Kawish (Music only).
I am not sure but these channels are available on satellite TV too. As last year when I was in England I asked the satellite service provider to search for us these channels and he successfully did it for us and a lot of sindhis are watching these channels in England too.
I will keep u posted if there is something new from my side.
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| Jan 05, 2008 4:43 pm | | re: re: re: re: re: re: re: Are sindhis divided by religion? | # |
Naresh...Profile Updated ... | | Hi Waqar,
Thanks a lot for providing such a great link to all of us here.
http://www.sindhivideos.com/raani.html
I am looking out for a song which you might have heard i hope, if you can help me in searching that song. If i m not mistaken, that song is sung by Nadeem Mirani. Off late, I am not able to see that song again on KTN.
Title of the Song: Chocolatey Nenan Wari Chhokri.
Hope to see your positive response soon.
Thanks in advance.
Take care and Best Regards,
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| Jan 05, 2008 6:22 pm | | re: re: re: re: re: re: re: re: Are sindhis divided by religion? | # |
Waqar Agha | |
Hello Naresh Sayeen,
Kiyan Aahiyo. This song is present in the same link and album name is "Tunhinja Khuwaab". Enjoy..
http://www.sindhivideos.com/TuhinjaKhuwaab.html
Moreover you can watch and listen some other sindhi songs on the undermentioned links.
1. www.sindhimusic.com
2. Go to you tube and search for "sindhi music",sindhi dramma" etc. you will find latest songs on it too.
Like this undermentioned sindhi-balochi song for your fun.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLQhta0KjYI
Naresh.. I would appreciate if you could send me any link containing songs from our indian sindhi singers..
Take care and keep in touch
Waqar
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| Jan 06, 2008 3:12 pm | | re: re: re: re: re: re: re: re: re: Are sindhis divided by religion? | # |
Naresh...Profile Updated ... | | Hi Waqar,
Once again, Thanks a lot for your amazing and quick response. Though the sad part of this site is that i cant save the song :(. Anyways, i can hear this song once again bcoz of U.
Well, these days I am a bit busy with work but whenever i will get such good content, I will surely share with you all people.
Hey All, Young Heart Ryzers, U can also listen to this song as well :), I am sure you will like the same.
Keep in touch and take care.
Regards,
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| Jan 07, 2008 8:01 am | | re: re: re: re: re: re: re: re: re: re: Are sindhis divided by religion? | # |
Harry G. T. | | I think there is a slight variation on "Sindhis Divided by Religion" and on this particular discussion I wish to offer my views.
As far as my knowledge goes, there was no Pakistan before partition so there was equal migration and transition happening between the sindhis within India itself.
But a true confession is that we may speak Sindhi even today, but 99 % at our generation have lost the read and write ability which we never developed as we never went to the Sindhi Schools to learn the alphabetic order and the language.
No doubt, we are a peace loving people with a single theme " live and let live " and have also progressed on the world map. I am surprised to see flourishing Sindhis staying in colonies like Barbados, Dar-es-salaam, USA, Uk and the Far & Middleast, also a big surprising lot of them live in Bangladesh & Sri Lanka and have affluent houses and business.
One thing for sure we have lost is, we will or our next generation will never be able to read - and write Sindhi. The current trend of Sindhi Parents speaking to their children in English, Hindi or Urdu will also diminish the count of Speaking Sindhis from this Universe.
If there are solutions to harp over, I would like to participate and take the task further to bring in the Sindhi Domain with Sindhis who can speak, reading and writing their own Mother-tongue.
Until then, Long live Cindy :))Private Reply to Harry G. T. |
| Jan 08, 2008 5:44 am | | re: re: re: re: re: re: re: re: re: re: re: Are sindhis divided by religion? | # |
Waqar Agha | | Harry Sayeen,
I am totally agree with you about the attitude of sindhis towards sindhi language. Even we sindhis living in Pakistan are facing the same challenges. Sindhis living in cities like to speak and teach urdu with their childern. I am not against learning other languages but atleast a sindhi should do some justice with their language too.In my opinion a person who is proudly calling himself sindhi but feeling shame in speaking , reading and writing is doing a big blunder. The next generation will have to pay the price. I have few suggestions that require attention and participation from my GSN friends.
1.We should agree to be proud sindhi and prove it. For example when we meet we speak in our language and so on.
2.In india where sindhis are concentrated they can demand the govt to have atleast a sindhi subject in their course curriculum. Otherwise sindhi parents give some extra time to their childern to teach them sindhi.We are doing the same here in canada.As language plays a vital role to make people understands their cultural values.
3.if possible there someone who is resourceful come forward and open a sindhi tv channel which is a very powerfull source to keep a culture alive. Till this started you can encourage people in india to watch pakistani sindhi channels like KTN,Sindh TV and Kashish channels etc.
4. A healthy communication links like this GSN group should be encouraged among both Pakistani and indian sindhis so that they can exchange their views openly. After all we all are sindhis before any Islam or Hinduism.
Because regardless of any faith we sindhis are called generation of the great Raja Dahir in Pakistan.We proudly accept that.
I believe "if there is a will there is a way". Just call ourself sindhis and dont prove anything practically is dishonesty to me. Moreover one thing I didnot understand that I am sharing with you so that someone might guide me is why we sindhis have been always influenced or impressed from other cultures or people easily? Why we are always on the defence side historically as other nations always attacked us and destroyed us. Like I read Thatta(sindh) has been destroyed and rebuild seven times in history.Are we coward nation or what? Dont we have a rich culture and civilization that we should be proud of?
In my opinion speak, read and write sindhi openly is a real sindhyat.... what is ur opinion?
Regards
Waqar
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| Jan 08, 2008 6:28 am | | re: re: re: re: re: re: re: re: re: re: re: re: Are sindhis divided by religion? | # |
Pushpa Moorjani | | I have tried learning Sindhi script many times (I even appointed a tutor for some time) but I just cannot, one dot moves a place and the sound changes.. it is so complicated! 56 alphabets and all look similar…. even the curves of the alphabet are confusing….
Wish somebody could put a logic behind a dot and curve of lines for us to remember..
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| Jan 08, 2008 8:35 am | | Are sindhis divided by religion? | # |
Rajiv Lulla | | agree with most of what Agha has said....
and yes....learning Sindhi is difficult, so is Urdu....let us not crib and instead learn...
appreciative effort by Pooja to take the pains to learn....will do that myself...before 2009 will be literate in my mother tongue....meaning writing and reading, both!!Private Reply to Rajiv Lulla |
| Jan 09, 2008 9:10 am | | Are sindhis divided by religion ? | # |
Harry G. T. | | Firstly, Congratulations to Pushpa for the effort, and Rajiv Lulla who has shown courage and has a Planned Path in going ahead to complete his read, write and speak Sindhi by 2009. It's amazing and inspiring to hear, I am gonna make attempt to READ & WRITE Sindhi very soon - which my Father still does.
Refering to Waqar Sayeen who has written the following:
" Moreover one thing I did not understand that I am sharing with you so that someone might guide me is why we sindhis have been always influenced or impressed from other cultures or people easily? Why we are always on the defence side historically as other nations always attacked us and destroyed us. Like I read Thatta(sindh) has been destroyed and rebuild seven times in history.Are we coward nation or what? Dont we have a rich culture and civilization that we should be proud of ? "
Let me give my two paisa contribution in short : I am not fully aware of the total Sindhi Community world over, but historically we have a Vast Cultural back ground. Mohon-jo-dara civilization was all about Sindhis.
Thatta Sindh is where my roots lie, meaning Grand-Parents and Parents were born and brought up there, migrated in 1945 to Mumbai India after which I was born. We are Sindhi Bhatia's and we got the name of Bhatia's from the word Bath - Bath is a warring weapon carried on the front line by the soldiers in ancient period, after which swords and other deadly weapons were carried. So Bhatia Sindhis were warriors of the sort. We are no more warriors, but have not changed our culture or have followed other people blindly.
The Bhatia's had opportunity to do pearl diving in Bahrain and that is how some 400 years back - they travelled from Thatta to Bahrain in small boats and ships and invaded the Middle-east, that is how you find somany Bhatia Community people settled in here, I am in Bahrain too presently. Started with pearl diving and became businessmen.
We are still the lot who are vegetarian, and donot consume alchol (there are exceptions to every case, and all five fingers are not alike) so culturally we are a strong community, but being out-going and having a flare for good food, luxaries and willingness to work the hard way up, we have diversified into this world - I always tell that Sindhis are the only people who call world their home.
So be proud of being a Sindhi.
Rgds
Harry
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| Jan 10, 2008 4:10 am | | re: Are sindhis divided by religion ? | # |
Waqar Agha | |
Harry Sayeen! Good to hear that your forefathers belong to Thatta as I also belong to Thatta & I have some special love for Thatta. The history regarding Bhatia's is also very interesting and encouraging but my querry was related to sindhi's as a nation. As historically we never attacked anyother nation but we have always been attacked. Historically sindhi went to distant places just for trade and lived there decently and peacefully. Our last known emperor (talking about sindh as an independent country) was the great Raja Dahir and after that sindh has been plundered sometimes by Arabs, Afghans, Mughals,English etc. I suspect that living in a long time slavery might change the attitudes of our nation dramatically. That might be the reason that we have so many differences on the basis of religion,caste,creed and political affiliations. No one is uniformally thinking as a sindhi...
Pushpa and Rajiv! I understand it needs a big courage to learn a new language and I wish U guys all the best to achieve this goal. On the contaray childern can learn any language quite easily like my daughter learned french so quickly than me. She is tetralingual now(sindhi,english,urdu & french). I think it would be very nice if we create an environment for our childern to learn sindhi along with other languages.In this way we can save our language quite convincingly.
Long live sindh and sindhi...Private Reply to Waqar Agha |
| Jan 12, 2008 12:00 pm | | Are sindhis divided by religion ? | # |
Rajiv Lulla | | My daughter s 2 years old...can count fron hikku to duh (1 to 10)...in Sindhi...courtesy my father who can read and write Sindhi too......he is her default Sindhi teacher..... Private Reply to Rajiv Lulla |
| Jan 12, 2008 3:04 pm | | re: Are sindhis divided by religion ? | # |
Waqar Agha | | Rajiv Sayeen,
Thats the spirit!!!! good to hear that. We sindhis should show our full potential to learn sindhi as we are doing in learning other languages... Other wise someone rightly said in the last words of his poem " Matan Koi Samjhay Ta hui sindh aen sind waran ji noli..."
(translation: Keep sindhi alive other someday someone recall that there was sindh and there was sindhi..."
Keep it up. Private Reply to Waqar Agha |
| Feb 22, 2008 6:17 pm | | re: re: Are sindhis divided by religion ? | # |
CaptainSindbad | | dubai used to have an organisation called Aseen Sindhi which joined sindhis on the basis of language only ..not country place or religon...will try to get you more details..if any one has updated info please forward.
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